zby a few seconds ago

LLMs are great at text - you don't need to adopt command line for an LLM to use. This is the same as with RAG - you just connect the LLM to the shell tools we are using for search - it was trained on using text tools.

jsight an hour ago

Yeah, I'm still confused as to why so many people in "AI engineering" seem to think that MCPs are the key to everything.

They are great if you have a UI that you want and it needs a plugin system, obviously.

But the benefits become much more marginal for a developer of enterprise AI systems with predefined tool selections. They are actually getting overused in this space, if anything, sometimes with security as a primary casualty.

lemming an hour ago

Mario has some fantastic content, and has really shaped how I think about my interface to coding tools. I use a modified version of his LLM-as-crappy-state-machine model (https://github.com/badlogic/claude-commands) for nearly all my coding work now. It seems pretty clear these days that progressive discovery is the way forward (e.g. skills), and using CLI tools rather than MCP really facilitates that. I've gone pretty far down the road of writing complex LLM tooling, and the more I do that the more the simplicity and composability is appealing. He has a coding agent designed along the same principles, which I'm planning to try out (https://github.com/badlogic/pi-mono/tree/main/packages/codin...).

whoknowsidont 23 minutes ago

MCP was a really shitty attempt at building a plugin framework that was vague enough to lure people into and then allow other companies to build plugin platforms to take care of the MCP non-sense.

"What is MCP, what does it bring to the table? Who knows. What does it do? The LLM stuff! Pay us $10 a month thanks!"

LLM's have function / tool calling built into them. No major models have any direct knowledge of MCP.

Not only do you not need MCP, but you should actively avoid using it.

Stick with tried and proven API standards that are actually observable and secure and let your models/agents directly interact with those API endpoints.

  • cyanydeez 9 minutes ago

    probably easier to just tell people: You want MCP? Add a "description" field to your rest API that describes how to call it.

    That's all it's doing. Just plain ole context pollution. World could be better served by continuing to build out the APIs that exist.

emilsedgh an hour ago

Oh you're misunderstanding MCP here.

MCP was created so llm companies can have a plugin system. So instead of them being the API provider, they can become the platform that we build apps/plugins for, and they become the user interface to end consumers.

  • moneywoes an hour ago

    what's the difference between that and those providers exposing an api?

    • dymk 17 minutes ago

      MCP defines the API so vendors of LLM tools like cursor, claude code, codex etc don't all make their own bespoke, custom ways to call tools.

      The main issue is the disagreement on how to declare the MCP tool exists. Cursor, vscode, claude all use basically the same mcp.json file, but then codex uses `config.toml`. There's very little uniformity in project-specific MCP tools as well, they tend to be defined globally.

Bobaso an hour ago

Moderne Ai agent tool have have a setting where you can trimm down the numbers of tools from an MCP server. Usefull to avoid overwhelming the LLM with 80 tools description when you only need 1

  • the_mitsuhiko 36 minutes ago

    I don't find that to help much at all, particularly because some tools really only make sense with a bunch of other tools and then your context is already polluted. It's surprisingly hard to do this right, unless you have a single tool MCP (eg: a code/eval based tool, or an inference based tool).

    • stavros 23 minutes ago

      Don't you have a post about writing Python instead of using MCP? I can't see how MCP is more efficient than giving the LLM a bunch of function signatures and allow it to call them, but maybe I'm not familiar enough with MCP.

      • the_mitsuhiko 20 minutes ago

        > Don't you have a post about writing Python instead of using MCP?

        Yes, and that works really well. I also tried various attempts of letting agents to write code that exposes MCP tool calls via an in-language API. But it's just really, really hard to work with because MCP tools are generally not in the training set, but normal APIs are.

        • stavros 12 minutes ago

          Yeah, I've always thought that your proposal was much better. I don't know why one of the big companies hasn't released something that standardised on tool-calling via code, hm.

dennisy an hour ago

This is incredibly simple and neat! Love it!

Will have a think about how this can extended to other types of uses.

I have personally been trying to replace all tools/MCPs with a single “write code” tool which is a bit harder to get to work reliably in large projects.

jrm4 26 minutes ago

Yeah, "MCP" felt like BS from jump. Basically it's the problem that will always be a problem, namely "AI stuff is non-deterministic."

If there was some certainty MCP could add to this equation that would perhaps be theoretically nice, but otherwise it's just .. parsing, a perhaps not "solved" problem, but one for which there's already ample solutions.

hendersoon 37 minutes ago

MCP is convenient and the context pollution issue is easily solved by running them in subagents. The real miss here was not doing that from the start.

Well, stdio security issues when not sandboxed are another huge miss, although that's a bit of a derail.

DeathArrow 30 minutes ago

For Claude Code this approach looks easy. But if you use Cursor you need other approach as it doesn't have a format for tools.

  • zby 4 minutes ago

    The agent in Cursor is constantly using command line tools.

deadbabe 40 minutes ago

You don't need MCP.

You need Claude Skills.

  • nextworddev 40 minutes ago

    Actually you just need a prompt and some tools